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Title: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: Vin on November 12, 2009, 10:47:28 PM
it's just an idea, parang reverse concept ng ibang mags making their own online forums.

maraming marunong magsulat dito (Dear Kuya BB, Dear Kuya PS (new! :D), GRO Barkings, Husky Stew, etc, as possible columns :D ). may photographers & layout artists to help :D

if it clicks & dumami ang readers/subscribers, dadami ang member ng forum :D

maraming contacts na dogfood makers / accessory stores as advertisers sa mag :D

baka merong may sobra-sobrang pera na gusto magfinance ng publishing :peaceyo:

wala lang, naisip ko lang, baka merong interested gumawa ng PPF Magazine.

 :wadayatink: :wadayatink: :wadayatink:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: bryvan28 on November 12, 2009, 11:06:18 PM
Vin I think this is a nice idea.... :ayos:

So for those who are interseted out there... Don't be shy. Show us what you got


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Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: kianne on November 12, 2009, 11:38:25 PM
nice one pwede  :ayos:  :ayos:

maging ka level ng animal scene,

pero pag ppf mag naman siguro Quarterly ang issue kase para madami ang mailalaman like mga events at for sure GRO events ang pupuno mag smile  :grin1: nako sa mga picture  pag natuloy ang mag nato  ;D


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: bryvan28 on November 12, 2009, 11:42:34 PM
Syempre hindi mag papahuli dyan ang SIBE TRIBE....  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: kianne on November 12, 2009, 11:44:13 PM
Syemprehindi mag papahuli dyan ang SIBE TRIBE....  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

 :applause:  :applause:  :ayos:  :ayos:  :ayos:  :ayos:



Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: paulo_tordilla on November 12, 2009, 11:46:51 PM
nice! hinde ako papayag na hinde ako makasama dito sa magazine na pinaplano nyo  :rofl:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: amang on November 13, 2009, 01:15:15 AM
ok ang quarterly..  :ayos: :ayos:

FUNDING.. sino ba mayaman dito? sige na!!  :wadayatink: :wadayatink: :wadayatink:

ibebenta ba sa members para bumalik ang pera at mapaikot for next issue?


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: sheena15 on November 13, 2009, 01:20:20 AM
 :ayos: :ayos: :ayos: maganda to


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: ffkkennel on November 13, 2009, 04:51:02 AM
good idea! para na iba naman sa basic pet magazine.


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: doggydiva on November 13, 2009, 06:09:44 AM
oo editor si maricel bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: Vin on November 13, 2009, 08:42:40 AM
ok ang quarterly..  :ayos: :ayos:

FUNDING.. sino ba mayaman dito? sige na!!  :wadayatink: :wadayatink: :wadayatink:

ibebenta ba sa members para bumalik ang pera at mapaikot for next issue?

pwede din sa magazine stands & bookstores, para yung mga doglovers na walang access sa net, maging aware sa PPF :wadayatink:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: marley on November 13, 2009, 09:10:47 AM
astig to... reader kasi ako animal scene.. kaya siguro to...
good morning to all


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: bryvan28 on November 13, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
oo editor si maricel bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Psssst......... ikaw ha....


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: doggydiva on November 13, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
bakit???? anong ikaw ha???? it was a suggestion!


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: bryvan28 on November 13, 2009, 05:25:42 PM
bakit???? anong ikaw ha???? it was a suggestion!


 :harhar: :harhar: :harhar: :harhar: I miss you happy


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: doggydiva on November 13, 2009, 05:25:50 PM
isalang masasabi ko Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Maricel the writer!!! tsk tsk tsk!!! bwahahahahahahahahahahaha


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: bryvan28 on November 13, 2009, 05:32:17 PM
isalang masasabi ko Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Maricel the writer!!! tsk tsk tsk!!! bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

pa  :offtopic: lang po ng isa ha.....  :thanks:


Ang daya nyo!!! Hindi nyo ko sinama last night!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: jenny on November 13, 2009, 07:38:42 PM
it's just an idea, parang reverse concept ng ibang mags making their own online forums.

maraming marunong magsulat dito (Dear Kuya BB, Dear Kuya PS (new! :D), GRO Barkings, Husky Stew, etc, as possible columns :D ). may photographers & layout artists to help :D

if it clicks & dumami ang readers/subscribers, dadami ang member ng forum :D

maraming contacts na dogfood makers / accessory stores as advertisers sa mag :D

baka merong may sobra-sobrang pera na gusto magfinance ng publishing :peaceyo:

wala lang, naisip ko lang, baka merong interested gumawa ng PPF Magazine.

 :wadayatink: :wadayatink: :wadayatink:

First magazine cover eh pipili ng dog sa PPF para mafeature...he..he... palagay ko eh malaking gastos yan he..he..
Dadaan pa sa butas ng karayom... :peaceyo: :peaceyo:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: dheneil on November 13, 2009, 07:56:34 PM
subukan natin yan,, puro features mga dog natin at mga owners.
haahhaa


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: kly07 on November 14, 2009, 12:01:27 AM
hey cool to ah..haha sana mag push through to para dalawang magazine na bibilhin ko...hahaha animal scene and yung the best, ang PPF magazine... :ayos: :ayos:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: SECRETARIAT on November 14, 2009, 03:26:42 AM
good idea ito...sana matuloy!! :ayos:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: ffkkennel on November 14, 2009, 04:09:31 AM
suggestion lang po. kung gusto ninyo matuloy ito, pwedeng mag chip in kung baga stocks or cash bond then pag kumikita na then yung interest pwedeng i cash in. 


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: SECRETARIAT on November 14, 2009, 04:16:21 AM
suggestion lang po. kung gusto ninyo matuloy ito, pwedeng mag chip in kung baga stocks or cash bond then pag kumikita na then yung interest pwedeng i cash in. 

puwede :ayos: :ayos: stockholder ng PPF magazine.. ;) ....puwede ko bang ichip in yung credits ko :wadayatink: :duh:....joke!


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: doggydiva on November 14, 2009, 04:30:32 AM
pa  :offtopic: lang po ng isa ha.....  :thanks:


Ang daya nyo!!! Hindi nyo ko sinama last night!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Excuse me ikaw kaya umarte arte dyan ! tinawagan ka namin patay na cell mo !!hay naku some things never change!!!


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: amang on November 14, 2009, 01:34:12 PM
Maganda nga po.. pero masalimuot ito kung yung chip-in ang pag uusapan..

kung articles and contents lang kaya nating sumabay sa existing pet magazines, even featuring mga groups natin..

mukhang mahirap i market sa public, kelangan muna i-establish sa member.. baka nga member pa lang di naman lahat yan makipag collaborate  :grin1:

Initial funding lang kelangan na donation  :grin1: :grin1: :grin1:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: jenny on November 14, 2009, 03:35:13 PM
Maganda nga po.. pero masalimuot ito kung yung chip-in ang pag uusapan..

kung articles and contents lang kaya nating sumabay sa existing pet magazines, even featuring mga groups natin..

mukhang mahirap i market sa public, kelangan muna i-establish sa member.. baka nga member pa lang di naman lahat yan makipag collaborate  :grin1:

Initial funding lang kelangan na donation  :grin1: :grin1: :grin1:

Kaya nga po sbi ko eh high hill climb ang susuungin sa bagay na yan, but who knows...GODS WILL :youwish: :youwish: :youwish: :youwish: :youwish: :youwish:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: amang on November 16, 2009, 01:44:02 AM
Kaya nga po sbi ko eh high hill climb ang susuungin sa bagay na yan, but who knows...GODS WILL :youwish: :youwish: :youwish: :youwish: :youwish: :youwish:

a ganun ba? gawin mo ng MOUNTAIN HIGH CLIMB sagarin mo na..  :peaceyo: :peaceyo: :peaceyo:  :grin1: :grin1: :grin1: :grin1:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: IronWill on November 16, 2009, 12:58:04 PM
tingin ko kailangan dito sponsors.

tapos yung mag sponsors syempre may libre ads na sa magazine. diba ganun kadalasan ang nangyayari?

so siguro kung talagang gusto, gumawa ng layout, tapos major sponsor may min fee then halimbawa isang page yung ads nya. then semi major. half page yung ads. then minor sponsors.
 ;D


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: shakydoo on November 20, 2009, 10:45:53 AM
Bukod sa sponsors at kailangan ng dedicated group to work on this. many can contribute but not that many can be dedicated to keep it running. Remember Animal Scene / PCCI Quarterly or any other pet magazine publications have payed employees to keep them running. Nothing can beat the heart of volunteers but for how long?

Pero magandang idea talaga eto, siguro kahit minsan masubukan lang


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: may.b on January 08, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Medyo late na ko ah. Magandang idea talaga (sana) to! :( Tama si shakydoo, sana kahit na-try lang, just to see kung bebenta.


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: doggydiva on January 25, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
sino sposponsor???


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: koohcollette on February 02, 2010, 02:48:24 PM
medyo madugo ito tsaka magastos :-[ :-[
pero walang impossible


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: FURfectFriend on February 07, 2010, 04:24:44 PM
pwede tyu magdonate to make this possible. :)

We can give articles w/o payment as starter tapos kapag napublish na at nabili, pwede nang sweldohan ang writers and photographers....  :wadayatink: :grin1:


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: may.b on February 07, 2010, 09:19:48 PM
Or it can be non-profit, we just need to breakeven :)


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: Grungee on April 27, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
Sorry ngayon ko lang nabasa itong suggestion. But I know the suggestion is still up for grabs.

My career was in the magazine business. I started contributing first to many magazines then had a column, became a consultant then managing editor then finally to editor. That was my life for more than 25 years.
Magazine projects are always exciting to talk about. People think it will take off quickly because you have so many ideas about how to make it attractive. Marami kang sponsors in mind.
But putting up a magazine will bring you back to reality. Costing will go to hundreds of thousands of pesos (no joke!). Ang major source of funding mo -- the advertisers -- do not join in until your mag is around 2 years old. Big time advertisers do not want to support a publication na short time only. So they wait until you show that you're established first (mga 2 years?).Yan lang malaking cause of worry for the publishers.  If you can't raise the money -- you can't print!
Problema mo pa dyan also is circulation. If you can't publish a product where the dealers will make some money from -- they won't circulate your mag.
I once produced a pet tabloid and it clicked in the beginning because it was free. We would get calls from vet clinics or stores asking us to replenish because some people would get five copies at a time. When we started to charge even a small amount to give it value, people stopped getting. We'd come back to the vet clinics a month later and we'd find the copies untouched. Kasi may bayad na. People like FREE.
That tabloid was so popular that time (because it was the only pet newspaper) some advertisers-in-waiting asked my ad manager what happened to it. My ad manager said, "We're planning to go online."
PPF is online. You're there na. Online websites are the new global "magazines." Walang printing cost, walang circulation expenses, walang returns, and your readership reaches millions worldwide.


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: shakydoo on May 05, 2011, 01:02:04 PM
Sorry ngayon ko lang nabasa itong suggestion. But I know the suggestion is still up for grabs.

My career was in the magazine business. I started contributing first to many magazines then had a column, became a consultant then managing editor then finally to editor. That was my life for more than 25 years.
Magazine projects are always exciting to talk about. People think it will take off quickly because you have so many ideas about how to make it attractive. Marami kang sponsors in mind.
But putting up a magazine will bring you back to reality. Costing will go to hundreds of thousands of pesos (no joke!). Ang major source of funding mo -- the advertisers -- do not join in until your mag is around 2 years old. Big time advertisers do not want to support a publication na short time only. So they wait until you show that you're established first (mga 2 years?).Yan lang malaking cause of worry for the publishers.  If you can't raise the money -- you can't print!
Problema mo pa dyan also is circulation. If you can't publish a product where the dealers will make some money from -- they won't circulate your mag.
I once produced a pet tabloid and it clicked in the beginning because it was free. We would get calls from vet clinics or stores asking us to replenish because some people would get five copies at a time. When we started to charge even a small amount to give it value, people stopped getting. We'd come back to the vet clinics a month later and we'd find the copies untouched. Kasi may bayad na. People like FREE.
That tabloid was so popular that time (because it was the only pet newspaper) some advertisers-in-waiting asked my ad manager what happened to it. My ad manager said, "We're planning to go online."
PPF is online. You're there na. Online websites are the new global "magazines." Walang printing cost, walang circulation expenses, walang returns, and your readership reaches millions worldwide.

This is good sharing of insight tita Betty, when na etong online pet magazne?


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: goldengirl on May 05, 2011, 04:58:50 PM
PPF is online. You're there na. Online websites are the new global "magazines." Walang printing cost, walang circulation expenses, walang returns, and your readership reaches millions worldwide.

Exactly, Tita Betty. That's why the idea was shelved na. First, all of us (or at least most of us) have day jobs.  ;D  Doing editing, writing up articles, etc. is time-consuming and frankly, no one who is up to doing the job has the time to spare. Second, as you say, marketing is a b*tch to do for a new magazine. We can't keep coming back to the same sponsors or we'll burn them out. And third, people will say they will buy the magazine to support PPF. But we all know that people have a way of backing out of their word. In the end, people like FREE stuff. That we cannot afford to give.


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: Grungee on May 06, 2011, 09:38:51 PM
This is good sharing of insight tita Betty, when na etong online pet magazne?

I thought about it but I keep shelving it and putting it out, then shelving it again... Ad support in websites is so cheap! Hundreds of pesos lang ang bilang mo, not like my old pet newspaper where my ad manager could wangle up to P18k from a (hesitant) sponsor-to-be. I will still need to pay writers, photographer, and web master. Where the hell will the funds come from?
Then to be visible, you HAVE to create events regularly. Or else people will not know your website exists. Do you make money in events? From my experience, you don't. Advertisers would rather pay in goods because they want their products given out as giveaways or prizes to participants. You rarely see cash in events.
In the end you'll realize launching an event is just one big marketing and advertising campaign which you have to do to keep your website always in people's awareness. You'll have to join as many events as you can too for the same reason.
Hay naku, am I sounding so negative? You're right, goldengirl. Publishing is quite a b---ch, hehe. Now you know why I turned to dogs. . .
But my magazine career was quite an adventure. . . it had a lot of high points. But just don't aim to be a publisher (which a lot of people seem to find a status) unless you have a lot of moolah to advance.


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: ffkkennel on May 07, 2011, 12:05:43 AM
just a suggestion. why not we start a small consensus who can contribute for the magazine. such as volunteers (writers, editors, photographers) and for the funding ask the members who are willing to provide small contributions so we could start creating the magazine. and the subscription fee should be affordable. probably start from P10 if successful then you could increase the subscription fee.   

some magazines start from P5 before when they become successful the magazine now costs about P50 - P120.


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: Grungee on May 07, 2011, 03:40:52 PM
Your major challenge is always the printing cost. If you want to have an idea, put together a package. Start low muna: newsprint, black-and-white photos, half the size of Animal Scene, 3-color cover, then maybe 70 pages. Get a cost estimate from a printer. But a magazine like that will look cheap; poor. It's a work you can't be proud of as saying it's a PPF publication. So you'll want an improvement: bigger size na kaya, newsprint pa rin, color photos this time. Diyan na lalaki ang costing.

I went tabloid that time because I knew what I would get into if I did a magazine.  But that tabloid had its challenges. You have to think how your product will look on the news stand -- beside other newspapers and magazines, or if standing alone on the counter at a vet clinic. It has to have a fighting presence. The product also has to feel good when held. Kung too thin (because of your budget) you won't give a good impression. Para kang kawawa. You'll have to make it a little heavy. That pet newspaper tabloid was thin when we started so the only way to compensate for that was to make it eye-catching at once, thus we went white book paper and full color (oh-uh, is it getting identified? Animal Scene watched our every issue closely).

That 8-paged tabloid alone costed me P50k everytime we printed. We printed 2,000 copies because printing cost goes lower the more copies you print. We had a hard time circulating the darn thing because dealers didn't want to distribute it for us because they made so little money out of it for all their trouble and accounting involved. But we were proud of our work and enjoyed readers' feedback. We were developing a fan following. We would get inquiries when we weren't printing. Then we decided to charge P10 to give the publication value. That's when our problem started. Nobody wanted to get it anymore. They wanted it FREE.
For a long time my garage was swamped with unsold (and uncirculated) copies. That's a mountain of bad memories.
Again, your first challenge is the printing cost. Get a cost estimate first. Then you'll know where your biggest expense will go.   

Then you can start figuring out how to raise the budget. . .


Title: Re: PPF Magazine (?)
Post by: LoneWolf on September 25, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
UNLESS IT'S FREE  ;D


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